Do you mean to say that a book is not authoritative if it does not have ISBN. But, it has been incorrectly said that the language spoken 2000 years ago is similar to Tamil spoken today. Is this an compromise everyone is happy with? If anyone can provide a reliable source that asserts Tamil origin for this word, we can keep it; otherwise it should be removed. If a book does not have ISBN is it unreliable There's a specialised meaning in horse racing; they're off is the traditional cry as a race starts, and the start itself is often called the off. what dictionary or book) is the, I'm with nohat. ( see., Greek-->Angura, Latin-->Angur, Old English-->Ankor, English-->Anchor) its free real estate. What's not to like? I have not removed them from the list, thus far. Moved Permanently. Definition of Tamil in the Definitions.net dictionary. The fact that Malayalam was separated from Tamil from 10th century is well known by both tamil and keralite people because of sanskrit influence by namboodhiris. explode; to burst forth or break out suddenly or noisily; to go forth, out, or away : leaveâ¦ . Most of the Indian Books do not have ISBN. Nohat (talk) 00:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC), The OED states traces a Sanskrit origin, but Bharatanatyam is a typical Tamil classical dance form today practiced primarily in Tamil Nadu. The word tekku is tamil which is root of malayalam. Even western books say that Orange is of Dravidian Origin. Let me clear the situation for you. Aim: Eei (In Tamil Eei means to shoot, To Take from distance), Arm/Hand: Karam, Kai. Putting it in Tamil is guesswork as far as I'm concerned (unless someone does indeed have a source for this). How are you sure that the book you cite has not been based on another imaginary work. For wrong sentences, we have every right for an apology, especially for these words which are an insult, Any one has a right to claim proof for a fact. The idea that cash was derived separately from both Tamil and Latin is a boggling one. Also, all words in Malayalam needn't be of Tamil origin. Any sources? How does a small change in the English spelling do any help? I don't think that Wikipedia has a policy which permits me to call Mr.X a fool and the culture of Mr.Y's country as Speculation. Any way, the article is only about a LIST of words and the introduction for that section is not necessary. Now coming to the fourth question, When Mr.X questions my fact, How can I show a book written in French (for example) to Mr.X (you have told that books in other languages are also reliable) when he does not know French. Uru means shape. If you are not satisfied, you can ask for more proof. show off definition: 1. to behave in a way that is intended to attract attention or admiration, and that other peopleâ¦. ), Fall or Feel : Veel (Veel means Falling , but in some cases it means to fall in love), Fire : Viraku (Firewood or Fire source in Tamil, this comes from the root "viri" (To open up breaking, up etc... the process of collecting dry wood from the trees, see below the word frissure), Fault/Fail : Varumai/Variya ( "Varumai" or "Variya" , Means Poverty / Lack of returns), Finger : Viral (Some little sound resemblance is there, this word comes from root "Viri" means to spread, to break open etc...,), Default : Thavaru (In Tamil it means "crime", ""wrong or acted wrong" and also "Thavirthal" for "missing or defaulting""), Delicate : Thalir (Tender, The newly grown leaves), Battle/bataille /Battalion : Padai ( In Tamil Padai means Army), Axe: Ari (Ari means "To take in, To cut") Axe=KOdAri, Bar: Paarai (Paarai means Large Rocks hidden inside and not easily moved), Arms: Aran (Aran in Tamil, means Tools for protection, often refers the King's fort, also Aranmanai=palace), Arm: Karam(Karam in Tamil, means hand ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2016 (UTC), The word 'letter' is derived from tamil word 'எழுத்து'. My motive is that the page starts out with saying that these words are ultimately of Tamil origin. In north-India the word for "one" is "ek". The general thought is that the more surface area (wrinkles, creases, etc.) ("Thinai" means very smaller in size), Light(noun): Oli ("Li" sound means to leave from the surface). And it is not from other dravidian languages. God - KadaUl - meaning One who went above all. Assume the words were borrowed from Malayalam. For such irresponsible behaviour we demand an apology. But the list of english words of sanskrit origin page is not written in the same style as this page. Also how can he call my question as "stupid". But we cannot tolerate high handed insulting sentences proclaiming false facts. Why are filling this page up with your whining? 'List of English words CLAIMED TO BE of Tamil origin:'. The apology IS FOR INSULTING WORDS. What is your level of knowledge regarding Dravidian Languages. How to use go off the rails in a sentence. Armstrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 18:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC), American Heritage says that 'copra' is from Malayalam , a Dravidian language related to Tamil. Infact, the core grammar for the language was laid down 1000's of years ago(eg:The Tamil Classic "Tholkapium") along the delta of the river Cauvery and it is still the base for the language. My eldest brother in law passed away 3 years ago june 2016. What does Tamil mean? What is the ISBN of the Bible Mark and Luke wrote in sheep skin We will shift this back, after giving the needed proof. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_English_words_of_Tamil_origin#Let_us_let_go_of_this_instance_of_incivility_and_get_on_to_editing Doctor Bruno 13:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC), I go with the advice of Sundar and other seniors that we "let go of this instance of incivility and get on to editing. âHe is sad that there are no efforts to translate Tamil works into other languages.â âHowever, I consider myself to be Sinhalese, as I have no comprehension of the Tamil language or culture.â âAt the same time I wanted to show that Tamil films are not inferior to other language films in content and technical brilliance.â The very argument what you say itself proves that Protodravidian is tamil. Can you provide any reliable reference for your claim? Google apps Kar means Gaining . Muyarchi udayar igalchi adayar. (Note that I did provide (in this page) justification for why 'ginger' /must/ be included; however, my citation seems to have been deleted) Atnadar Mar 25 2005, (The word 'ginger' come from tamil word 'inji'(inji/gingi/ginger).i am not sure.it was my opinion.). I've also added the sources (OED / AHD / MWD) in brackets where the article cited them. In the place of something previously mentioned; as a substitute or an equivalent: Having planned to drive, we walked instead. just crying hoarse that someone is insulting your country and your president is in my view, juvenile. There are more than 1000 books in India that say that Tamil is the oldest Language. (transitive) The object of this phrasal verb (the piece of clothing) can go in the middle or at the end of the phrasal verb (see the first two examples) He took his hat off. went meaning in telugu: à°µ à°³ à°² à°¨ | Learn detailed meaning of went in telugu dictionary with audio prononciations, definitions and usage. Can you show me the article edit where Nohat (or anybody) makes a change regarding the number four in the article space? This information should not be considered complete, up to date, and is not intended to be used in place of a visit, consultation, or advice of a legal, medical, or any other professional. It could be well possible the the compiler of your book did not have enough knowledge at that time. Cigarette/Cheroot - Churuttu -(Cigar made by rolling tobacco leaves). Human translations with examples: eedaga, thanam, perima, à®ª à®° à®³ , secrecy, kudaletram, apo à®ª à®° à®³ , efw à®ª à®° à®³ . I shall wait for the proponents to provide a reasoning for their inclusion.... We Tamilians can still read and write in that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vayalir (talk • contribs) 13:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC), I thought since wikipedia is an open source, may be any one can contribute their knowledge to improve the encyclopedia. How to use go off in a sentence. It is obvious. To whom should we complain in Wikipedia regarding such high handed behaviour, Can we have "Proof" for your statement that "it is perfectly conceivable that there were unwritten Dravidian languages at the time of the first appearance of Tamil literature", How come you demand proof for everything, but feel very convenient to add a "perfectly conceivable" How can a language(Tamil) be spoken as it's own root stock? Arvind has given a number of sources at appropriate places above. 1. What is that level 11 that you say. What is the ISBN of the gospel written by Luke and Mark in Sheep Skin. Tamil paratanāṭṭiyam (applied to the revived form of the dance introduced in the 1930s)"—but Cf just means confer, and does not mean that the compared word is in any way the origin of the English word. Ifâ¦. to flip out. Moreover, a language is one that is used for communication, whereas Sanskrit was only used for maintaining records and never spoken by anyone. so stop making baseless claims. COMMON WORDS FROM TAMIL: In tamil, we can easily able to explain the origin of that word. Meaning: Continue in extent; Example: The meeting seemed to go on forever. -Lokesh C. That the word copra is a binaminal of co+aravam co means king and aravam means snake now its calling in Tamil That the word of 'Rajanagam' (it means king of snake) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:1734:2051:1:1:9B0D:F7EA (talk) 15:45, 15 January 2019 (UTC), Could the person (Nohat?) also stop citing from books which dont even have an ISBN. Do not take others' edits of your work personally. I am an Indian too and i guess we share the same presidents and Govt Orders(G.Os), so stop embarassing me and others like me. Okay. At the same time, the list also contains words which entered English directly through Tamil but ultimately from other languages like Sanskrit or Pali! The /l/ sound is very well used in tamil in the words naalawathu (fourth) and naalvagai (four kinds). So yes, I'm going to sound like a Wikihippie, but: Or, as I remember from a children's book of my mostly forgotten youth, "no fighting, no biting." Here's how you say it. ils 1. That is the major reason for the Tamil words in English. Come off definition is - to acquit oneself : fare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malarmisai (talk • contribs) 17:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC), Nation : Naadu (Naadu means Native country in Tamil) (They say the word "nation" and "Native" comes from the Latin word "natus" but i dont know from where Tamil word "Naadu" came from. âHe had looked at her, in a gaze full of meaning, and nodded.â âShe could tell that the piece that was being written before her in Elaine's delicate but rushed writing was full of meaning for the girl.â Is it not gross injustice to a language when some one who does not even know the alphabets of the language says that a word "has been lost in Tamil" How can he tell that a word is not of use in Tamil when the word is still used in Tamil. Please read my earlier messages. General CommentI'd say this song is deffinitly about Layne Staley of alice in chains and how due to his addiction to drugs he seemed to come and go from the music scene quite frequently. Thenpulam - temple I wish all of the etymology pages were like this. Kuruvintam means ruby in Sanskrit too. I removed the following items, which had been added: 1) I believe those words are not borrowed from Malayalam, and are "directly" borrowed from Tamil. I think you're oversimplifying the relationship between Tamil and Malayalam, but given that there is no, I don't claim to have any special knowledge of these languages, but I did read. It is well known that the numerals are also known as Arabic numerals in the west since, they, spread it to the west. Define wandered. Bog off! Hard: Kari , Kadi (Kadi means difficult to move in Tamil) "Kari" means Sronger in Tamil. How can some one term my question as "stupid". Tamil has been on its own from its evolution. What is your qualification and academic credentials as far as Dravidian languages are concerned, Since you have said "NO" to the second question, the first question becomes irrelavant. Literal: There is no downward journey for those who keep trying. In order to guarantee such "proclamations" do not occur, and to make sure this and other articles are not bombarded by pundits and fake experts, Wikipedia requires verifiability of sources and information. Toggle the box to turn on/off typing in Tamil. If you have a proof greater than an Indian Government Order, please cite that. Thaekku - teak, Kirukkukal - scrible (Ko, sound means "Take as one", in shape to accept something like a coconut half shell , here it refers to the shape that take things as one.). Explode, detonate; also, make noise, sound, especially abruptly. It's all verifiable, it points out when there are differences between dictionaries, it gives multiple transliterations of a foreign script. But, given how, I have two sources that say < Sanskrit, posssibly from Dravidian (Tamil is Dravidian). -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC), The reply by Aravind for this message has been given at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_English_words_of_Tamil_origin#Let_us_let_go_of_this_instance_of_incivility_and_get_on_to_editing Doctor Bruno 13:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC). 1. Why do you keep on asking about ISBN numbers. Type in the box below (eg. Best wishes, Clive Betel is a leaf which was cultivated in TamilNadu(Vettrilei) since the agrarian age 1000s of years even before Malayalam had evoluted. If yes, then this is the best application for you. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC), He blatantly tell that the "the proto-Dravidian /l/ of 'four' which has been lost in Tamil", which is a TOTALLY INCORRECT statement.
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